Random Thoughts...

  • On: 03/08/2010 13:12:03

I have been a little quiet lately – sorry!  No reason other than I am trying to re-learn a computer software program that is my bread and butter to my job.  Training Peaks has been upgraded (hmmm) and while it is fine overall, there are A LOT of things that are taking up my time.  Things that are not perfect yet and writing workouts in TP now is taking me longer.  Gear at TP has been very supportive, but at the end of the day, it is all new.

I am so excited to race!  Bring on the season!  I have said this before, but I am so very glad I am not doing a huge race early.  I am doing a ½ Marathon in a couple of weeks and that has been fun to get ready for!  It is on a “hilly” course for this area and I have run the course at least 8-9 times since December!  Just this past Saturday it was so crowded out there!  Temps were warm (we started at 7am and it was 22F) and there were hundreds of runners out there!  I wanted to say, “AND where have you been all winter when I ran this course in 8” of snow and temps below 0F?”  hee hee.  Anyway, I have a lot of friends and athletes running this event and even some traveling in for it – so we will have a great time!  It will be nice to see where I am at fitness wise.

I am also working on the logistics of the Tucson camp starting on the 24th of March.  Wow, that came up fast!  Jerome and I were mapping out courses – one in excess of 100 miles – around Gates Pass and all the fun places to ride in Tucson!  I am bringing in some nuun and Recovery Socks and getting JHC logo water bottles for campers….so, just a lot of little loose ends for camp!

I opened my big mouth on Sunday.  Oops.  Miss Daisy has had a bee in her bonnet for a LONG time at Masters.  I am not proud of my behavior, but something needed to be said and at the end of the day, I drew the short straw and was the one who said something.  Basically, we have a swimmer in our lane that is NOT a positive person.  She is negative, has a bad attitude and quite frankly does not let us pass her on sets.  She is in the wrong lane.  The lane I swim in is the fastest lane in the pool so there is nowhere else to go if you are too fast for this lane.  So, the slower swimmers tend to move to other lanes.  Normal?  Yep.  And, we have a huge gap in this lane.  A guy swimming 100s in 1 min or less…and then us.  So, my #1 job in my lane is to stay out of the fastest swimmers way.  That is lane etiquette.  The fastest swimmers run the lane.  Period.  No questions asked….and if you are getting passed you LET that person pass.  You do not speed up, you do not flip in the middle of the wall, you just move over.  This swimmer is new to our program.  She emailed me via my website and I hooked her up with our local Triathlon club + Masters swim team.  On the first day she came to practice she jumped in our lane.  WOW I thought…that is assertive.   Months go by and I think this whole time I am the ONLY one frustrated with her.  SO I keep my mouth shut. 

Come to find out..just yesterday at practice that I am not the only one!  YAY!  We said something months ago to our coach – but seriously, who needs the drama?  So, we bit our lips.  Finally, I had had it yesterday.  Ben and I were doing 100s.  We were doing them off 1.25 send off.  Ben was swimming IM and I was swimming free.  The other 2 in the lane were not able to do the IMs off that send off (no problem) so we were out of rhythm in the lane (which is ok too).  But crap, we had a tough time turning on the walls.  One of the gals is SUPER and a great swimmer and very considerate (as I am with her when she kicks my ass in the IM stuff)…but the other gal….I ran right into her on the wall and that is what started the drama.

We get back to the wall and she snips at me something like, “I do NOT @%^&&&$#@!^ have eyes in the back of my head.”  And she was pissed at me.  (again just negative energy).

The other swimmers heard her and literally looked away and gasped.  They KNEW what was coming.  I have been good for WAY too long and at the end of the day you know what?  I AM AN athlete too. I am not there to coach.  I am there to swim and swim hard.  So, I took a deep breath and we kept swimming the set.

At the conclusion of the set Ben and I discuss this issue and Ben says to me, “This is the worst year of swimming for me, Jen, she is making things very challenging for all of us.”  Well, this was enough for me to get my wheels turning on how I was going to address this in the lane when she was finished.  I don’t think Ben has ever said anything negative in all these years.

She came to the wall and I went up to her (did not want to make a scene) and I said, “Did you just snap at me?  If so, I do not appreciate that.  You are new to this swim program that we all have been here for 8 years+.  You are in the WRONG lane.  If you are going to swim in the fastest lane of the pool then swim with intent.  Swim hard.  Get over your bad attitude and let the faster swimmers pass you!  IF you do not want us to pass you then get out of this lane.  We all have struggled with your attitude all year and I am the one who looks like a B*tch saying something to you, but something needs to change.”

She just looked at me.  I looked at her and by now everyone is looking at us.  She told me she doesn’t need to be yelled at.  I told her I was not yelling (I was not) and if she wants to see me yell I WILL..but there is no need.  I do not need the drama and just b/c her life is a total mess, do NOT make us miserable. 

She got out of the pool and left.  She said she is never coming back.  Ok…that is mature.  Anyway, I was NOT proud of this exchange at all – I am actually a people pleaser and this stuff makes me sick in my gut…but Ben and I discussed that we did not feel bad that this happened.  It was brewing and coming to a head for a long time and SOMETHING had to give.

Anyway, we will see if she will be there on Wednesday night at practice.  But Coach Corinne (swim coach) was not there on Sunday (hence the lane issues) and Coach Corinne said she will move her out of our lane if she comes back on Wednesday.  I hope she pulls herself together and comes back.  My intention is not for her NOT to swim – come on!  But, after thinking about it all day yesterday, I do not regret the exchange.  I think the goal is for everyone to be considerate of everyone’s workouts, swims, paces and efforts….but one bad apple can ruin it for a whole group sometimes.

Ok, enough of that negative energy!  The good news:  We are starting to warm up here in Chicago!  Today it is 40F.  Tomorrow marks the 100th day of temps below 48F degrees.  So, we are due for some heat, wouldn’t you say?  LOL.  

Until then, let’s swim with nice manners and good lane etiquette!  haha

Comments

  • #1
  • Posted by: cHERYL -
  • On: 03/08/2010 13:44:54
lmao. OK, I'm not really lmao. But you were right in saying something. Swim etiquette is soooooooooooo important, and if someone doesn't get it , they have to be told. There's only so much space in the pool.

YAY for spring!!!!!!!!!!!! glad you real northerners are getting the warmup too!
  • #2
  • Posted by: Molly - molly.mcnamara@yahoo.com
  • On: 03/08/2010 14:24:14
I can't wait to come out there for camp and see what counts as "hilly" for you and Liz :)

Good for you saying something.  I'm a newer and much slower swimmer but I know to get the h*ll out of the way of the faster people in whatever lane I'm in. Being with someone with bad swim etiquette makes the workout miserable for everyone.
  • #3
  • Posted by: Michelle Simmons - michelle.simmons08@yahoo.com
  • On: 03/08/2010 15:32:21
I really am LMAO! I know how you feel about those negative exchanges... I have had one too and was not proud of myself but what else can you do? It's good though when at least the coach is there on deck to back you up so you don't feel like it's all on you.

Glad it's warming up for you. 22 degrees is warm? Ha!
  • #4
  • Posted by: courtenay   - cour10ay@gmail.com
  • On: 03/08/2010 15:46:10
she might not have  eyes at the back of her head, but she certainly has them at the front of her head where she can see people gaining on her, not to mention nerve endings at the bottoms of her feet, where she can feel people gaining on her. good on you for saying something - i have had my share of bad apples (in cycling, not really in swimming cause i am always on my own ;), and they really do ruin a fun thing for everyone else.
  • #5
  • Posted by: marit c-l - mchrislaut@aol.com
  • On: 03/08/2010 18:05:30
Seriously - SOMETHING needed to be said. And it was just a matter of time. You are definitely right that one bad apple can spoil the entire bunch. And at the end of the day - you WANT to work hard, have a great workout...but you also want to enjoy yourself in the process. You're not doing her any favors by allowing her behavior to continue. And she is clearly ruining the workouts for you and your lane mates. No regrets - just move on from it. If she shows up - great. She's gotten over herself. I wouldn't hold my breath though....

I'm LOVING the no early races! :) Totally great call!
  • #6
  • Posted by: Jenn L. - jennabul@yahoo.com
  • On: 03/08/2010 18:16:18
Jenny, you did the right thing. Enough said.  Poor lane etiquette and a general negative attitude ruins a practice for everyone, no matter what lane you're in.  If she couldn't take some constructive criticism, then there must be a lot more going on in her life at this moment.  I have been known to flip turn as close as possible to a person sitting on the black cross if they're in the way, then kindly ask them to move.  If she doesn't come back, it's her own loss, but she needs to learn some manners!  
  • #7
  • Posted by: Damie -
  • On: 03/08/2010 19:07:18
Jen, you are a leader.  You had to speak up.  That is what leaders do- glad you did it and your lane mates are glad too I am sure.  :)  xoooxxxoooooo
  • #8
  • Posted by: Julia - Juprma@aol.com
  • On: 03/08/2010 20:31:16
Oh I am sorry that happened but hopefully if she does come back you all will be happier and if she doesn't-well- not your fault. You aren't responsible for her negative mojo!
Can't wait for Tucson-and more pink sox:)?!
  • #9
  • Posted by: Angelina - angelinadrljaca@yahoo.co.uk
  • On: 03/09/2010 03:53:51
Well someone had to say it. It's like people tap on your feet but if you make room for them to pass they don't want to. It is annoying.
  • #10
  • Posted by: Catherine -
  • On: 03/09/2010 08:04:21
Classic diversion tactic: you ask her to consider other lanes and she says "Don't yell at me"  Huh? What does THAT have to do with what lane she belongs in??  Crikey, just get in the next lane and be done with it.  It's a workout, not a meet!
  • #11
  • Posted by: Laura -
  • On: 03/09/2010 08:16:12
Oh Jen! I hear you on this kind of thing. Sometimes I think it's a female thing being sensitive and getting feelings hurt, but you just have to take the feelings out of it sometimes and tell it like it is.  I had a similar experience recently in a completely different situation where I just had to stop taking the abuse and tell it like it was. It makes me SO thankful everyday that I work with a bunch of men. They may tell inappropriate stories, but they certainly don't take it personally when you say what needs to be said.
  • #12
  • Posted by: Angela Kidd - angela.kidd@navistar.com
  • On: 03/09/2010 08:23:42
I am obsessed with etiquette, almost too a fault so nothing drives me more nuts than people who don't respect etiquette (like, people who walk on the left side of sidewalks - why? you live in the U.S., get to the right) so I totally respect your frustration and you did the right thing.  Having said that, I would have LOVED to have been there to have seen it.
  • #13
  • Posted by: Melissa S. -
  • On: 03/09/2010 09:13:33
I agree with everyone, it sounds like you did what needed to be done.  And if she doesn't come back, too bad for her.  Put on big girl pants and get in the correct lane.  I can't stand people with poor lane etiquette, especially when you are swimming in the fastest lane.  Nice job on saying something.

WooHoo for warming up weather!  Here's to no more snow and cold snaps....I have all my fingers crossed that it only gets warmer from here on out.
  • #14
  • Posted by: Tiffany - roktif@yahoo.com
  • On: 03/09/2010 09:58:15
Good for you Jen, can you come down here and tell the idiot that swims sidestroke with us on Tuesday and Thursday night to keep his legs on his side of the lane!!!!!!!
   I hope you have some of those JHC water bottles left for the May camp.  I cant wait... and woo hoo for the 40-50 degree weather..
  • #15
  • Posted by: Beth - shuttba@hotmail.com
  • On: 03/09/2010 12:43:25
I never understand why people at masters swim in a lane that is way over their head.  I mean is it fun to be in the way all the time?  Weird.  Anyway, I'm sure everyone is thankful that someone (you) had the initiative to say something and now things will be much better for all!  Hope she does come back though - but swims in the appropriate lane!  :)
  • #16
  • Posted by: Kim K -
  • On: 03/09/2010 13:06:03
jen, you did the right thing by speaking up, especially when she was the one in the wrong (um swimming in wrong lane, and then giving you a hard time).  do not feel bad for speaking your mind. she sounds like a piece of work that doesn't deserve to be part of your great masters crew!
  • #17
  • Posted by: Ashley L -
  • On: 03/09/2010 14:34:49
Classic... we all need a little bit of JH fire in us sometimes!
  • #18
  • Posted by: pinkywithbadbones -
  • On: 03/09/2010 14:54:17
Good on you Jenny for STEPPING up to the plate. No one else had the GUTS and as hard as that was, damn it... someone had to do it.

Oh we've had our issues in our lane too and we are NOT the fastest lane but when you join a lane ANY LANE, you must be IN TUNE to what is going on. BLASTING out the warm up and DYING during the main set is NOT being in tune and it's just one example of what some new folks do when they join a lane.  PUT ON YOUR RADAR i say and be super sensitive to what is going on around you newbies! We welcome you but PAY ATTENTION and be considerate . Simple and effective.
Loved this post, I was RIGHT there in the action as I was reading. :-)
  • #19
  • Posted by: Danielle PEdergraham -
  • On: 03/09/2010 18:46:04
I have been known to move lanes when a pregnant lady gets in with me.  (People always like to get in my lane for some reason.  My pool friends laugh about it.)  I am so afraid to kick her in the belly with my breastroke.  Your comments on that woman makes me wonder if the rest of her life is similar---where she just goes through not thinking about how her actions affect other people.  My personal pet peeve are people with very long toenails in breastroke sets.  I wish swimming was like waterpolo where the refs make you cut your nails for the other athletes safety.  I am glad that you reclaimed the fun in your lane for yourself and your friend Ben.  
  • #20
  • Posted by: Kelly - kelly.dunleavy@gmail.com
  • On: 03/09/2010 22:50:34
at my pool, the old men do the same thing. WHY THE FUCK would you deliberately wait on the wall and push off right in front of me when i am lapping you every 50y. That DOESN'T make you faster than me, it makes you dumber.

I could use one of your talks at the pool.
  • #21
  • Posted by: -
  • On: 03/09/2010 23:26:05
I think it is hilarious that some people think it is totally okay to behave poorly and treat others with disregard and then pull the tail between the legs when confronted.  I hope she does not come back.  :)  No one needs that during a workout.  Hate to see how she would be with us slow laners.  :)
  • #22
  • Posted by: Karen -
  • On: 03/10/2010 09:16:50
Ha!  You ROCK!!!!!
  • #23
  • Posted by: Ange - angelab@megalink.net
  • On: 03/10/2010 09:33:13
Good job sticking up for yourself and the rest of your team.I totally agree. Lane etiquette is Key with swim teams and it can drive you Nuts if people don't have it. I remember many issues over the years. You did the right thing.
  • #24
  • Posted by: Jenny Larson - jgolem79@yahoo.com
  • On: 03/10/2010 10:53:02
Ok Jen, this post had me laughing out loud! First, I love that you are seeing where you are at fitness-wise with a half and I am doing the same thing with a 2-miler this weekend (i haven't participated in an organized athletic event in a LONG time!) Good for you for having the balls to confront the negative energy in the pool! You were totally right and someone needed to call her on it! It was not mean, it was necessary!
  • #25
  • Posted by: Michelle B - mbrost@charter.net
  • On: 03/10/2010 13:11:15
I love it when people stand up for what's right (since it seems to be so hard for me!). I'm sure others were thankful for your involvement.
  • #26
  • Posted by: Trainer Kate - kgconsulting1@yahoo.com
  • On: 03/10/2010 17:49:28
Im trying to picture you having a tone of voice that is anything but cheery peppy happy Jen - and I'm cracking up but I could def see it. The people who are the nicest can scare the crap out of you the most when they get ticked off by something enough to say something. Way to stand up for yourself.
  • #27
  • Posted by: kate o -
  • On: 03/11/2010 07:30:51
Your masters coach should call her, tell her you were right, that she is still very welcome but she will be swimming in a slower lane.  Then let bygones by bygones.  Shame on the coach for not moving her down long ago, or at least telling the girl to step up to the plate and swim harder.  

Off to get on my bike now!
  • #28
  • Posted by: regina - rtisticfx@yahoo.com
  • On: 03/11/2010 11:46:53
I remember when I first started swimming last year.  I was so nervous and conscious of making sure I followed pool etiquette, almost to my detriment.  I always  opted for the slower lane in a pinch.  That is until this year when the slowbies kicked me out and told me I was too fast for their lane.  I was mixture of  embarrassment and joy; I got faster!

I swim in the medium lane now and I find most people are pretty good about being aware.  If I have one pet peeve, it's the person who comes to a stop at the end of the lane and just stands there instead of off to the side which then forces me to work around them.  Otherwise swimming is all joy and light for me!!!  (how is that for a positive attitude?)

PS: you did what you had to for everyone's benefit.  good on ya, mate!
  • #29
  • Posted by: Wes - wes1030m@yahoo.com
  • On: 03/11/2010 14:04:23
I can't imagine me getting in anybody else's way, ya know?  With that said, maybe the chica was Master's newbie and just didn't get it.  I know if I ever show up for a Masters session, I'll know nothing about etiquette and social aspects of the group.  In any case, she should't have been rude to you.  If she had started the conversation off differently maybe the result would have been different and a win-win for everybody, eh?  Moving on...  :-)
  • #30
  • Posted by: Jennifer Cunnane -
  • On: 03/12/2010 11:02:57
Way to go Sparky!  Ha, just kidding but your comments were appropriate.  I struggle on our high yardage Mondays to keep up with the uber swimmers in my lane who grew up swimming and might have also swam college.  I know my tenure of 7 years swimming 2 x a week is no match.  I stay out of their way and swim like hell to keep up, at least part of the time!  
  • #31
  • Posted by: Mary IronMatron -
  • On: 03/12/2010 13:12:58
I takes a lot of courage to be the one to say something. I admire you for being able to do it, even knowing you will feel sick in your gut about not pleasing... (I definitely know that feeling.) But the good news is that you have your lane back! Yeah!

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